tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15714418.post2255724810833579884..comments2024-03-25T19:05:07.205-06:00Comments on Reading, Writing, Working, Playing: When to censor?JaneGShttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11094501834387622997noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15714418.post-89789328425237032172016-03-30T14:49:54.375-06:002016-03-30T14:49:54.375-06:00Thanks for the warning on the book. I guess I wou...Thanks for the warning on the book. I guess I wouldn't mind reading this well-known book but I'm glad to know beforehand. I'm sure it will be disturbing to me as well thecuecardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08870323589682197091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15714418.post-65061682847053750112016-03-14T13:21:44.148-06:002016-03-14T13:21:44.148-06:00Very disturbing. I have always heard this book pr...Very disturbing. I have always heard this book praised, but have not read it myself. I'll make sure to put this on my "do not read list" and look for a better history that is not so biased. Thank-you for your honest review!Laura's Reviewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13904763940307902364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15714418.post-66006426560500942062016-03-11T11:00:26.340-07:002016-03-11T11:00:26.340-07:00Exactly--that kind of bias undercuts credibility o...Exactly--that kind of bias undercuts credibility of the author.JaneGShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11094501834387622997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15714418.post-60660620096130142772016-03-10T21:13:52.547-07:002016-03-10T21:13:52.547-07:00As soon as I wish up to any kind of bias in a book...As soon as I wish up to any kind of bias in a book, then I wonder what other bias I may be missing in a book or what other ways the author has inserted his opinions into the work.Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05554217416500328610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15714418.post-73980448887798518932016-03-10T18:08:28.118-07:002016-03-10T18:08:28.118-07:00Thanks for the recommendation, Shelley. I have th...Thanks for the recommendation, Shelley. I have the first book in the series on order.JaneGShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11094501834387622997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15714418.post-66698179527858891402016-03-10T12:39:33.000-07:002016-03-10T12:39:33.000-07:00There's a series by Richard Evans about the ri...There's a series by Richard Evans about the rise of the Third Reich. I've only read to first one, but it was very readable and fascinating. As for the book you have, I would say burn it, but then I would sound like Hitler. Shelleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18408471966661831444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15714418.post-2379051673515045442016-03-09T19:16:22.454-07:002016-03-09T19:16:22.454-07:00Not crafty enough for book art, I think. I'll ...Not crafty enough for book art, I think. I'll probably just shelve it, or maybe use it as a reference if I want to look something up.JaneGShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11094501834387622997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15714418.post-68577503180010587112016-03-09T19:15:03.541-07:002016-03-09T19:15:03.541-07:00Yes, it is ironic that Shirer perpetuated the same...Yes, it is ironic that Shirer perpetuated the same hatefulness as the Nazis he was writing about. <br /><br />I think it depends on whether Trollope resorts to stereotype or whether his villainous character happens to be Jewish, or if he is portrayed as villainous because he's Jewish. There's where I am with Dickens and Fagin--certainly Sikes is a worse person than Fagin.JaneGShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11094501834387622997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15714418.post-60802740099667514532016-03-09T19:11:29.325-07:002016-03-09T19:11:29.325-07:00I know about Heyer--I was appalled when I read The...I know about Heyer--I was appalled when I read The Grand Sophy. Really changed my opinion of her. I still read her sometimes, but not as big a fan as I could have been.JaneGShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11094501834387622997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15714418.post-17244772890417473412016-03-09T19:10:19.370-07:002016-03-09T19:10:19.370-07:00It really mars what is a monumental and mostly imp...It really mars what is a monumental and mostly important book. I know when I said I was going to read it, you did recommend it, but now we both know that Shirer let his own biases undermine the history he was trying convey. It's such a shame.JaneGShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11094501834387622997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15714418.post-57130231043782049632016-03-09T16:55:38.854-07:002016-03-09T16:55:38.854-07:00I vividly remember my father reading that book whe...I vividly remember my father reading that book when I was a little girl. He found it completely absorbing (and I wouldn't be surprised if he shared Shirer's views). I think for his generation (my dad's), Shirer's book was the first one to reveal such a wealth of information about the Third Reich. I never knew about his homophobia, which is disgusting. Some of Georgette Heyer's books also use the term, "the Jew" when referring to moneylenders. It really makes me shudder every time I stumble across it.Pamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10450024004497790504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15714418.post-23630468572232323672016-03-09T16:43:50.207-07:002016-03-09T16:43:50.207-07:00Though I always have really been opposed to homoph...Though I always have really been opposed to homophobia, when I read in my early twenties I think that the homophobia went over my head. <br /><br />This is a pity that the book contains this. It is not acceptable. I will no longer recommend this to folks as I have done so in the past. Brian Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15139559400312336791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15714418.post-66471182163260354502016-03-09T07:12:01.884-07:002016-03-09T07:12:01.884-07:00I'm with you. If biased, bigoted books like Sh...I'm with you. If biased, bigoted books like Shirer's keep getting praised and accepted, aren't we falling into the same patterns as 1930s Germany? There's enough hatefulness in the world today already. Good for you for speaking out!<br /><br />And I feel your discomfort with Victorian writers, though, to his credit, Dickens got better later in life. After backlash against his earlier depiction of Jewish characters, he included a very admirable Jewish character in one of his last books, I think it was Our Mutual Friend.<br /><br />I'm reading Phineas Redux by Anthony Trollope, and though it's mostly wonderful, there's a villainous Jewish character that makes me very uncomfortable. I hate to think that one of my favorite authors could be bigoted. Karen K.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13483190930383406559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15714418.post-44906585200984399072016-03-08T17:44:49.018-07:002016-03-08T17:44:49.018-07:00Maybe you could turn it into book art; it's go...Maybe you could turn it into book art; it's got a lot of pages to work with. :) Sorry it ended up being an unreadable read for you. I've never tried Shirer, and I'm thinking I'm not going to any time soon.Lark https://www.blogger.com/profile/13777891312147377769noreply@blogger.com